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| Posted: Fri Aug 19th, 2011 01:02 am |
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createreality
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Hey,
I'm not sure this forum is the right place, so if it is not I would appreciate if someone could re-direct to the correct place.
I'm looking for like minded individuals who don't accept the world for what has been taught to us about it.
I personally do not believe in the general concept of time and I truly have no fear of death because I feel that death is simply a release of the shackles that our vessel(our human body) is holding us on this planet with. ( this is just a small snippet of how my brain works)
I havent really met anyone with a non mainstream view on the foundations of life/society so im looking for like minded individuals to explore the possibilities of what the world and life really is.
Jay
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19th, 2011 07:31 pm |
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GIDEON MAGE
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This was a little vague. Please elaborate...
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20th, 2011 03:03 am |
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PN
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hmm, agree. The post is not clear. May be very good topic(s) for discussion but unable to identify.
Possibly the concept of "time" is a thing you are looking for suggestions?
We do not know what your learnings are that you categorize as "mainstream" - do please give more definite material.
Thanks for the post and welcome.
PN
Last edited on Sat Aug 20th, 2011 03:27 am by PN
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22nd, 2011 07:21 am |
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Cosmeta
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<< I'm not sure this forum is the right place, so if it is not I would appreciate if someone could re-direct to the correct place.>>
I normally suggest that newcomers place their first post inside of our Main Gateway, so this post is fine. I could move it to another forum... oh, let's say the Metaphysical or Mystical Experiences, or even the forum on Theosophy, but would like to see where conversation leds us before I do.
<<I'm looking for like minded individuals who don't accept the world for what has been taught to us about it.>>
Here I would agree with Gideon... the above statement is kind of vague, considering the fact that we really don't know what you have been taught or what it is that you think we have been taught.
<<I personally do not believe in the general concept of time and I truly have no fear of death because I feel that death is simply a release of the shackles that our vessel(our human body) is holding us on this planet with. ( this is just a small snippet of how my brain works).>>
What is the "general concept of time"? What is death" And why do you feel shackled?
<<I havent really met anyone with a non mainstream view on the foundations of life/society so im looking for like minded individuals to explore the possibilities of what the world and life really is. >>
Here I will chime in with our PN.... asking what you mean my mainstream? Do you mean mainstream media or did you mean, fundamental christianity.
I will take a guess and go with the latter... You are yet another individual brought up in a maintream household and told to be a good little christian by not asking any guestions about God, life, death or about your own mortality. But alas, you do question but are either too young or still too afraid to share your views, even when you arrive at a website that is cearly devoted to NON-mainstream views.
Me... any my brain.... Well now, what can I say... it may not be as clearly defined as Gideon's jar, but it works non the less. So here it is in a nutshell:
Yes, I believe in immortality and in spirits!
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17th, 2011 11:25 am |
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Neil
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Do you guys realise not one of you have said 'hi & welcome' yet? Come on!
Hi, nice to meet you, what's your name?
The world cannot be what we're taught it is, simply because we are taught so many things by so many different people, all with their own agendas whether that be cultural or political or something else.
If we took everything at face value there would be many who would take advantage of us.
On the other side of the scale there are those who doubt everything and believe in the most outlandish theories (I'm not saying some of these are not true).
I would caution against going too far down either path as one leads to fundamentalism and the other to psychosis. Try to accept enough to be grounded in your daily life and then explore as much as you can handle. Test everything on its own merits. Look out for inconsistencies (both from the 'mainstream' and the 'alternative').
Try to get out of thinking in either/ors. The 'mainstream' changes all the time. And, as the other members have suggested, discussing specifics helps because it grounds your existential anxiety (to give it a posh name) in real issues.
I'm presuming by the general concept of time you mean the event follows event follows event etc. Delve into physics and you will realize that there are all sorts of fascinating theories being discussed all the time. Did you know that GPS satellites have an inbuilt program to adjust for the fact that time runs faster in space than on the ground? Also, look at other cultures and find out what they think about time.
There are lots of like-minded individuals but you are also unique so don't lean too much on the opinions of others - yet take all into consideration.
That's my advice
BB
Neil
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2011 10:35 am |
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PN
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Neil wrote: Do you guys realise not one of you have said 'hi & welcome' yet? Come on!
That's my advice
BB
Neil
Hello to you Neil; apparently you did not read my post welcoming the new poster who seems to have now disappeared.
Maybe to return to consider your "advice" ~ you have quite an array of advice. I didn't understand a word of it, but Cosmeta may. She's brightly lit, interprets well, and it's her website.
Nonetheless, it's interesting when posters toss in what they have and "suggest" a return visit.
Thanks for the post.
PN
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19th, 2011 03:13 am |
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Neil
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OK, OK, OK, sorry for jumping in with both feet. Looks like I missed your welcome!
And I'll try & make my future posts easier to digest.
"Nonetheless, it's interesting when posters toss in what they have and "suggest" a return visit"
 Sorry, I don't know what you mean by that...return visit to where?
Maybe I need some more sleep
BB
Neil
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20th, 2011 07:10 am |
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Cosmeta
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<<Do you guys realise not one of you have said 'hi & welcome' yet? Come on!>>
And do you realize that contained inside of every activation notice I place the words:
"Welcome to CosZ Shack: A friendly, warm online meeting place created especially for you in mind."
And again on the bottom of every page you will see the following statement:
"Welcome to CosZ Shack New Age Message Board Forum, ..."
Do you further realize that no one here, including myself is required to give a welcome or to say hello.
And to whom would we be saying hello to? To Creatreality who becme a member Thursday Aug 18th, 2011... started this folder and thread... and signed his name Jay, or would we be talking to Neil who joined CosZ Shack two years ago on Tuesdeay April 7th, 2009. So who are you Jay or Neil or both because deception does not make for a good beginning then or now.
But have it your way...
<<Hi, nice to meet you, what's your name?">>
Hi there. What's your name, Jay or Neil? My name is Kathleen but you may call me Cosmeta, the owner and webmaster of this forum and the entire website. WELCOME TO MY HUMBLE ABODE.
You will please to forgive for being so brief. I was away on vacation and after returning home had some urgent family matters to attend to.
Welcome to CS!
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20th, 2011 07:42 am |
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Cosmeta
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PN...
<< you have quite an array of advice. I didn't understand a word of it, but Cosmeta may. She's brightly lit, interprets well, and it's her website. >>
I may have been brightly lit, but these days I would compare myself to a single candle without a wick. You are too kind, PN.
I like you and Gideon have been trying to understand the authors meaning. I also find it interesting that each of us had instinctual doubts as expressed by our first responses.
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20th, 2011 07:44 am |
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Cosmeta
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To Either/Or...
You will pardon my skepticism Jay/Neil but your phraseology is very vague and overly general so that it is difficult for any of us to grab hold of a solid idea enough to discuss it.
For example:
When you say, " I would caution against going too far down either path as one leads to fundamentalism and the other to psychosis." What do you mean by the term psychosis? And what path leads to fundamentalism?
What do you mean by, either path? What paths are they... the one that leads us to fundamentalism and the other to psychosis?
See what I mean?
If you do not... You are suggesting by the very sentence structure that there is a third path. The path that leads us to either/or!
That one sentence alone is confusing, (at least to me) because in another sentence you warn us about thinking in terms of either/ors. Yet at the same time you give us nothing but either/ors to digest. You warn us without getting to know us or our positions.
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22nd, 2011 07:11 pm |
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PN
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Cosmeta wrote: PN...
<< you have quite an array of advice. I didn't understand a word of it, but Cosmeta may. She's brightly lit, interprets well, and it's her website. >>
I may have been brightly lit, but these days I would compare myself to a single candle without a wick.
Sorry to read your response, K., seems a pattern of energy for this entire year, and last year was no walk in the park either. We get weary, aches, pains, frustrations, confusion; and humility and patience are at least a once a day asking prayer (for me). It's been a cruel time, was forecast by spirit and playing out to the letter; however I like the following quip that applies to the Month of September energy + the next quarter is predicted to be a turn for the better, like a magical turn. I'm ready! Here's the quote:
"In the breathless hush of beauty, in its still reverie, you can find an indescribable whisper of hope. Hope can lift accomplishments into the realm of achievements. Hope can illuminate new dreams and visions and it can light the avenues to bring those dreams and visions into manifestation. Seek beauty and listen. Listen to the whispers of hope." ... Lazaris
In addition, the crown of Crone that some of us wear, empowers.
Maybe you can blow some soot off the screen and more greatly feel the beacon of light that you are. I could guess that might be the paradox to "suckin' wind" that we're experiencing? wdyt?
PN
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24th, 2011 03:46 am |
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Cosmeta
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PN...
I appreciate your words and what you are trying to do/say, PN, but I really don't know how to reply here. As to weariness, aches, pains, frustrations, confusion, etc., guess for me those are all part of life, and for each of us, but in varying degrees and in different times during our lives. Still, those things never phased me... never stopped me from reaching for more. It's not even a lack of beauty or hope or a lack of dreams when I say my light is dimming. It's more like... like something is missing. It's more like I am too well grounded in this life and in the mundane but at the exclusion of anything else... in anything resembling the spiritual.
And if Crone years empower... then my empowerment is returning to my younger years when I was virtually silent. In my younger years, however, I was silent for fear of speaking. Now in my later years I am becoming the silent observer. Just watching life go by and not really involved in making anything happen. That may sound strange and even egotistical of me because I always felt that I had the power to change things just by a mere thought... by my presence or better yet, by the Presence of my Higher-Self working through me. Now---now I simply don't care. Guess I reached a plateau and am just watching the rest of the world go by, or perhaps I am waiting for it to catch up. I really don't know. All I know is... I am living one day at a time... neither looking back nor looking forward.
Thank you for your whisper of hope...
Much appreciated!
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24th, 2011 08:17 pm |
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PN
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Cosmeta wrote: Now---now I simply don't care. Guess I reached a plateau and am just watching the rest of the world go by, or perhaps I am waiting for it to catch up. I really don't know. All I know is... I am living one day at a time... neither looking back nor looking forward.
K, tyvm for your good response. CS is great, because we can express safely, with dignity, stand in our truth strong enough to lean. I'm most surely not advising you! No-No. First off, I don't do advise and am wary of those who do. I'm feeling much the same (in my way) as you describe your way. From what I can study at this time, it's a strong energy, AND it's a good time to PAUSE. You're right on target. Pause, observe. Humility, patience. I do not read you being apathetic or mediocre. I read you trusting and wise enough to not ill place your trust. That's quite a lot for someone who is "just" living a day at a time. Cornerstone here is that you are "living" whilst many are not, not really. Others are slamming on the brakes and dropping the whole transmission. Better to coast a while, do something else is what I garner from current teachings. Teachers come when I ask. "O'God, I have questions. Send me a teacher." And then I listen. Moving through the day often floundering, bumbling, and I'm okay with that ~ privilege of Crone.
OK, thanks for allowing me to yap a bit. Congratulate yourself for your website. You did a stand-up job with it, and if you don't feel "all spiritual" even the spirit, always young, must rest a little sometimes between renewals, ya think?
"Well may the world go."
PN
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26th, 2011 06:39 am |
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Cosmeta
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PN...
<<Better to coast a while, do something else is what I garner from current teachings. >>
Well... actually I have been doing something else. For the past few years I've been working on my other web sites but it becomes tideous after awhile. More recently however I've been reverting back to my interest in oil painting and have been doing some portraits of our beagles. This past week I've included our son's Jack Russel who past away this monday.
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28th, 2011 12:58 am |
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PN
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Cosmeta wrote: More recently however I've been reverting back to my interest in oil painting and have been doing some portraits of our beagles. This past week I've included our son's Jack Russel who passed away this Monday.
K, I LOVE these validations ~ to 'splain, quoting about the energy of Hope and BEAUTY, when I wrote "Beauty" ~ I saw dogs, not in detail, but I very clearly had the image sensation that beauty for YOU at this time was dogs. You know I love dogs, so that didn't seem real unusual that dogs would exemplify beauty, but now you write that you are painting (painting captures spirit ~ light) your dogs. In a word, beautiful.
Sorry to read tho about your son's dog having passed out of his life. I do believe dogs go on to higher purpose, but it's still very hard. My condolences to your son.
PN
Last edited on Wed Sep 28th, 2011 12:59 am by PN
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30th, 2011 03:37 am |
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Cosmeta
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PN...
<<K, I LOVE these validations ~ to 'splain, quoting about the energy of Hope and BEAUTY, when I wrote "Beauty" ~ I saw dogs, not in detail, but I very clearly had the image sensation that beauty for YOU at this time was dogs. You know I love dogs, so that didn't seem real unusual that dogs would exemplify beauty, but now you write that you are painting (painting captures spirit ~ light) your dogs. In a word, beautiful. >>
Cool. Very cool in fact. Don't usually do this... but since you say you clearly had an image sensation of dogs, I will place some graphics here of the paintings I am doing. Don't think I will leave them up. So after you acknowledge seeing them I will remove them from my site---okay.
This is a painting of our beagle Rusty. It was my first attempt and took me about 4 months to do. I am not overly pleased with it, but not bad considering that I had not painted in oils since my early twenties.
This is a painting of our KC. I don't consider it compete yet, but this current rendition took me about 4 weeks.
Definately not completed yet because I just started working on it. This is about 2 hours of work so far. It is a portrait of our son's Jack Russel. Born in 1997 and died in 2011 at age 14. A cute little dog to be sure, and super friendly.
Hope this validation works for you.
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30th, 2011 04:29 am |
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PN
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LOVELY, what a joy, thank you so much for sharing your artwork! I'm sorry that I don't know the breed, i.e., in detail, but I do know joy, and I can see that in your work. Good for you!! I wouldn't know what end of the brush to hold. For so long, I have admired every brushstroke of TL, and much of Tom's work, also. It would be wonderful to be talented in such a way, and that you are joys me, as well as getting to see your dogs in this light.
I do believe I can perceive that your son's dog was ready to go. My niece is an animal intuit, and she knows these things. Dogs have often asked for her help, because they need to go and were ready yet the owners couldn't do it. It's still hard.
My dogs have always been Siberian Husky, but we lived in arctic weather then. Here, in the heat of Southern AZ, very unhappy Sibes, so I have no dog; therefore, it is extra fun that you shared.
Thank you again, and do keep painting! Many artists are critical of their work, and if they sell, they can't price their work. Check out some of Bob Dylan's artwork. He is exhibiting. See what's sold. See for how much white man dolla. The man cannot HELP himself from being very, very, VERY wealthy.
w/appreciation, PN
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Cosmeta
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PN...
I quess, for me, painting in a way, is theraputic. Mostly it is a way to keep my hands busy whenever I am bored. So, if I am not writing I will seek out another avenue.
Siberian Husky --- Yes a beautiful breed of dog; but as you say, not well suited for the hotter climates. Several years ago, our previous neighbor has a Husky with beautiful blue eyes. Both husband and wife would go to work and leave that poor dog tied to their fence with a metal leash. She was blind also. Not only would she knock over her water bowl, but the dog would bark the entire time. One day, I heard it howling out in pain. As I got closer I noticed that the clasp of the hook had gotten wrapped around the fold of skin right behind her knee cap... very painful. She wouldn't let me go near her. A growling dog is not one I would dare challenge. Since the owner was a member of our volunteer first aid squad, I placed an emergency call to get the dog help or for them to contact the owner. They came and within 15 minutes the dog was freed.
Jack Russels - A breed of dog said to be a cross between a Fox Terrier and a Beagle. Their average weight being about 12-15 pounds at full growth. This dog, Sir Luke by name was a pedigree and our son had him for 14 years. The breed is prone toward hip dysplasia and at around age 2-3 our son had him operated on. His vet at the time said that he would not live past his 5th - 7th year, but Luke was a strong dog with much determination. Buttom line is he proved that vet wrong.
A number of months ago, Luke developed a dry cough. It started out as a minor cough but got progressively worse. It turned into a chronic cough and was coughing the whole day. He was even waking up in the middle of the night with a coughing spell. Digital Radiographs showed that he had developed an enlarged heart. The vet thought he had water around his heart, so he/she prescribed heart medication and antibiotics. After a few weeks Luke started to improve, but at an expense. Since the meds had an anti-inflamatory he began to go into kidney failure and was put on dialysis. By this time also, he stopped eating completely and had to be fed prescription dog food through a syringe. From super thirsty his water consumption declined also. Bottom line here is.... he was becoming lithargic, couldn't stand unless supported and his breathing was very labored. Our son did all that he could, but on the last day of his life, decided to have him euthanized. It was a very difficult and painful decision.
As to selling paintings... no way. First they are not good enough; and secondly... it is just a hobby.
And yes---TL is a terrific artist... and the Rev does good works also.
I do not put myself in their class, however.
In Peace and Harmony --- Cosmeta
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